Vans

John Spring believes that the original colour for TH&B vans was green. At some point, this changed to a deep red with white lettering. Unfortunately for some modellers (myself included) the more colourful yellow and black paint scheme was not used until the mid-1950s. John says that the yellow of the vans matches the yellow of the boxcar fleet, but my (few) photographs seem to indicate that the vans had a "creamy" yellow, as opposed to the almost-lemon-yellow of the boxcars (although this might be an artifact of the poor colour response of 1960-era colour prints!). Further research is clearly called for!

The table following shows the available information on the TH&B's van (caboose) roster. Several of these cars have gone on to Port Stanley Terminal Rail Inc., which uses them as enclosed coaches for excursion trips.

Number Builder Date Built Comment
50 -- 1907 Rebuilt by TH&B shops in 1913 and renumbered 69.
51 -- 1907 Rebuilt by TH&B shops in 1913 and renumbered 70
52 -- 1907 Rebuilt by TH&B shops in 1913 and renumbered 71.
53 -- 1907 Rebuilt by TH&B shops in 1913 and renumbered 72
54 -- 1907 --
55 -- 1907 --
56 -- 1907 --
57 -- 1907 --
58 -- 1907 Now located at the Westfield Heritage Centre in Rockton. Click here to view a photograph of this van at the Westfield Heritage Centre (photo from the Nicholas Russon collection).
59 -- 1907 Now part of a private residence in Dundas, Ontario.
60 National Steel Car, Hamilton 1914 --
61 NSC 1914

Sold to a private owner, and now located on the property of the Elgin County Museum in St. Thomas, Ontario. Photo in Spring page 28.

Update - March 3 2001:Former TH&B van #61 is now the property of the Southern Ontario Locomotive Restoration Society in St. Thomas. The society acquired the van in 2000. Submitted by Rob Sterne.

62 NSC 1914 Sold to Port Stanley Terminal Rail, Inc.
63 NSC 1914 Sold to a private owner, and now located on the property of Port Stanley Terminal Rail, Inc.
64 American Car & Foundry, Berwick, PA 1918 Photo in Spring page 28.
65 AC&F 1918 --
66 AC&F 1918 Sold to the Port Stanley Terminal Railway, converted to enclosed coach. Click here to view a photo by Bill Turner from the Morgan Turney collection.
67 AC&F 1918

Located beside the Tim Horton's on Dalton Road in Sutton, Ontario; partially painted in CNR livery. Current use unknown, but Jon Piasecki notes that work has been done since the summer of 2000 to reposition the van beside the Tim Horton's shop and to repair and replace window frames.

68 AC&F 1918 Donated to the Ontario Rail Foundation on September 9, 1975, but destroyed by arson at Brantford. Photo in Spring's book on page 28.
69
(nee 50)
AC&F (rebuilt by TH&B shop crew, Aberdeen yard) -- Sold to Victoria Station restaurant in Montreal in 1976 (now known as Sammy's Ribs).
70
(nee 51)
AC&F (rebuilt by TH&B shop crew, Aberdeen yard) -- Last reported location was at the St. Lawrence & Hudson's John Street Roundhouse in Toronto.
71
(nee 52)
AC&F (rebuilt by TH&B shop crew, Aberdeen yard) -- Reported as sold to Port Stanley Terminal Rail Inc., but on my last visit to PSTR I learned that 71 is privately owned. 71 has been repainted into what appears to be the "middle" period paint scheme (red body, white markings, black roof and underbody). In May, I heard from the owner of this van that it had never been owned by PSTR, and that his current paint scheme was his best guess because he's been unable to locate photographs showing the actual scheme.
72
(nee 53)
AC&F (rebuilt by TH&B shop crew, Aberdeen yard) -- --
80 Marine Industries, Sorel Quebec 1973 Steel extended-vision van. Rumoured to have been sent to work on the SOO about 1990, along with #81. One of the two was destroyed in a derailment, while the other was taken out of service shortly afterwards.
81 MI 1973 Steel extended-vision van. Sent to work on the SOO after amalgamation into CP Rail operations.
82 MI 1973 Steel extended-vision van.
83 MI 1973 Steel extended-vision van.

Source: CPR Corporate Archives, Montreal.


Last Modified: February 15, 2003